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    Tao Sutra "Attain the utmost in Passivity" - my comments

    Attain the utmost in Passivity,
    Hold firm to the basis of Quietude

    The myriad things take shape and rise to activity
    But I watch them fall back to their repose.

    Like vegetation that luxuriantly grows
    But returns to the root from which it springs.

    To return to the root is Repose:
    It is called going back to one's Destiny.
    Going back to one's Destiny is to find the Eternal Law, "Tao"
    To KNOW "Tao" is Enlightenment.
    And NOT to know the Eternal Law, "Tao"
    Is to court disaster.



    These are my notes and understanding while working on above sutra, from the book "Living Tao" by OSHO. Please read and comment on your understanding.


    "Attain the utmost in Passivity":


    We are always active, doing something! this is how we work or how our mind works and stays alive. If there is a thought, there is mind. To be PASSIVE is to not do anything, to give in surrender, to observe, to be a witness - Mediate. 24 hours we are doing things and things.... if one hour we can be passive and stop. Let things happen and we simply watch.

    Utmost Passivity: simply being passive is not enough. In being passive, we are trying, making effort to be passive. As we are trying we are still doing something and mind is still working... Meditation happens when we stop being active, surrender or forget about it being passive we simply observe. Its like trying to sleep, If you try to sleep it dosent happen. The moment you forget about sleep, you somehow sleep. Till you are excited, you cant sleep. The moment mind dosent have anything to do, we go to sleep. If we are trying to relax, it goes against relaxation as we are still doing something. Relaxation happens when we are not doing anything. Utmost in Passivity is when there is no effort to be passive.

    Beautiful things happen, they are not done. Love happens, meditation happens, relaxation happens. We cannot make it happen. No one can force us to love, we could pretend but it wont be love. Material world is a world of doing, and Spiritual world is a world of happening.

    Another way to look at Active and Passive is as Male and Female temperament. Males are more active; doing, women passive; waiting. Greatest thing happens to women, not men. She becomes pregnant, gives life! A god is to be born, women becomes a temple. Man simply remains a doer, outsider. To receive ultimate, we need to be feminine, witness, non-doer, utmost passive.

    Ying - fire energy, Yang - water. We need to be more like water, flowing and less like fire, rigid.


    "Hold firm to the basis of Quietude":

    Mediate to reach the core of ourselves, in the stillness find the center. It is there! hard to find with all the thinking going on, but only matter of time if we keep trying. Once we find it, hold on to it.


    "The myriad things take shape and rise to activity
    But I watch them fall back to their repose.":

    From the center and stillness we can watch things take place and they come back to stillness. When we meditate, we watch our mind and the thoughts go from one thing to other. Sometimes one thought leads to another, and on and on, and we realize and we come back to center. If we are centered or grounded, we watch things happen around us, people acting, but not being affected, we can simply watch without being affected.


    "Like vegetation that luxuriantly grows
    But returns to the root from which it springs.":

    Everything goes back to origin. Spring comes seeds becomes plants and trees, then one day day they fall and go back to ground. Child is born, becomes old and dies back to origin.


    "To return to the root is Repose:"

    In west progress is seen as linear. In east its seen as circular.

    In linear, everything moves in a line, and keep moving in a line, things are happening.... on and on, one thing to another. History is important, historical facts are important.

    In circular, everything moves in a circle, things happen then they go back to the root, history is not relevant as its a circle. 'Sansar' the world for world literally means a Circle. History becomes less important, and is substituted by Mythology 'Puran'. In Puran we are concerned with the essential, in History we care of the facts. Who cares about when Buddha was born, what matters more is what he said. Buddha becomes a symbol of all Buddhas and what happened.

    We are born and then we die, we return back the root. Life is a circle, death is repose. When we understand this, there is no struggle, there is acceptance.


    "It is called going back to one's Destiny.
    Going back to one's Destiny is to find the Eternal Law, "Tao" ":

    This is the Eternal Law, to understand the circle.


    "To KNOW "Tao" is Enlightenment.":

    Once we know, we dont fight it, we live with it. A wise man moves with the law, a foolish man suffers. If we go against the law we suffer, no one is needed to punish us. You put your hand in fire, it will burn.

    In our moments of happiness and bliss, we are with the law.


    "And NOT to know the Eternal Law, "Tao"
    Is to court disaster.":

    To not be with the law, to go against the law, we cause our own suffering.

    We create our own Heaven and Hell.

     

    Only published comments... Jun 19 2008, 10:39 PM by Jazz | [Edit Post]

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    Julie Jirout said:

    I like this poem.  

    I think that within this idea of passivity is the ability to live in the moment, to have an openness to a circumstance - not passive in the sense that one is non responsive.  On the contrary, in this passive state, yes? - someone is very responsive.  Here, "passive" suggests that one has passived his/her anxieties or thoughts enough so that one is open to a real experience...

    I also like this idea of circular progress.  I have to meditate on that concept. Having been so Westernized, it is not a part of my approach to things.  I think that this is unfortunate for me...

    Cheers, Julie

    June 19, 2008 11:53 PM [Delete]
     

    Andrew said:

    The sutra quoted, while pretty and romantic, misses the mark.  

    For example, the sutra encourages one "to return to the Root."  This is not  necessary, nor is it possible.  One cannot be returned to because one never leaves the Root.  The Root is all there is.  One can never move away from it, although there may be a feeling that one has done so.  One needs to realize that Taoism, like Buddhism, is, at its heart a NONdual teaching.  The essence of each of these teachings is unicity: an underlying foundation that there is one and ONLY one (thing?) which goes by various names: the Tao, the Buddha-Nature, Consciousness, Source, Totality, God, ...

    This........identity of self with All is pointed out in a famous Zen sutra, "The Sandokai" (Identity of Relative and Absolute):

    "If you do not see the Way you do not see it even as you walk on it

    When you walk the Way it is not near it is not far

    If you are deluded you are mountains and rivers away from it"

    Look.  It really is very simple:

    There is nothing to attain.

    Why not?

    Because there is no one to do the attaining.

    The one who is believed to do the attaining is a thought or, more accurately, a succession of thoughts, thought very quickly.  It is, in essence, an illusion, one that is similar to the the illusion created when single film clips are rapidly run together by a projector, one right after another, creating the illusion of motion, and action, and "doing," when, in fact, there is only the stillness encompassed by a single photograph.

    The Buddha said it quite clearly:  "Actions happen.  Deeds are done.  But there is no individual doer thereof."

    No individual doer.  

    Yes, at the moment of doing, there is a doer.  But that doer does not persist moment to moment.  That doer only arises at the moment of doing and, once the doing is done, that doer is no longer present.  Like a pedestrian.  When does a pedestrian come "into being"?  When there is walking.  When the walking ceases, when the individual reaches its destination and sits down, ....... where, then, is the pedestrian?  And so it is with all the various guises and masks of the self.  In the next moment, a new "version" of the now-defunct doer arises.  That new iteration is similar to, but not the same as, the one that had arisen only a moment before.  This is what has, over the millennia, been mistaken for "reincarnation."

    June 19, 2008 11:54 PM [Delete]
     

    Divyo said:

    love it!

    July 9, 2008 9:08 PM [Delete]
     

    Divyo said:

    This is a Discourse from OSHO

    Would greatly appreciate, if you could post the Sources from which Book of OSHO this quote text is it.

    Thanks!

    July 10, 2008 6:19 PM [Delete]

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